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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-28 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
"Good. Open communication is key to making this work. So--" Ivan stands, and gestures David to the rather comfortable looking couch against the wall of his office. "Why don't we sit? And you can tell me about your time here on Beta Colony so far."

Start small and easy with learning more about him, too. Ivan's good at this as well -- chatting up men and women had been an easy part of life before this. Now it's just in a professional context where he gets paid to do it. He grabs a bottle of massage oil from a tray as he heads over, making sure that David is doing as he's told.
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Taking a seat next to David -- not too close, not too far away either -- Ivan reclines casually, arm slung across the back of it. He's tall on Beta Colony at over six feet, it's hard to keep his legs from touching David's but he manages all the same. "It gets easier when you start picking out the details," Ivan says, touching his own. "This curl indicates that I'm an LSP, while this is sexual preference," he says, touching another part of it. "And the rest is just an indication of no real desire for any serious relationship."

Simple to him. David's own choice makes him smile -- it's very to-the-point.

"You're a doctor -- I assume not a medical one. You teach?" That's casual conversion that's easy, encourages him to relax with how much he's had to explain it, no doubt.
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-28 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, that spike in interest is just the sort of thing Ivan'd been hoping to encourage. His body language changes into something to encourage David to continue to talk, glad that he seems to be capable of holding a conversation in general. There's been a few clients where that wasn't the case, and Ivan had found himself at his wits end.

"Brought all your research with you?," he asks, amused. "That's ambitious. What's the topic?"

David doesn't need to clarify that he's here just to see an LSP -- there's no small number of people who are. That or the Orb, but while Ivan sometimes picks up shifts there when he needs a break in his routine, doesn't get to experience much past his adolescent years.
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-28 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, right over his head. But that doesn't mean he can't encourage this topic of conversation. "Your dissertation?," he prompts, only deviating from the topic to gesture at one of David's hands. "May I?"

He's not getting paid to completely forgo physical contact, David. And since he knows the other man is paying him good money he might as well make sure he's getting something from this entire thing. But without a break he drags the conversation back towards the man's academic work. "I didn't think the Komarrans had much of a legislature."
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-28 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing, at least for the moment. Ivan simply takes them in his, sliding his fingers through David's before letting them rest in the space between them on the couch. It's a start, and he's not going to suggest much else beyond a finger massage for their first real session. The hesitation is a sign that maybe he's not relaxed enough, so Ivan decides to encourage him a little.

"Just tell me anyway," he says, encouragingly. He's sat through worse.
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Ivan practically winces at the implications to his Betan educated self -- Good God, it could hardly be called government if not everyone had a solid say in what went on. "Trade ship share gambling?" He prompts, leaving the lack of democracy behind. Not everyone in the Nexus came from America before it got nuked sky-high, he reminds himself.
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-28 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ivan shrugs, not sure where to begin describing Beta. "If you're looking for a true native perspective, you'd have to look elsewhere. I wasn't born here," he explains with a wave of his hand. "But it's not as complicated as everyone makes it out to be -- all the information is there for you to access, just like everything else is. Living like this, with how our government works, why wouldn't we want an atmosphere of openness and equality?"

His mother had found it difficult to adapt, Ivan thinks, while he'd been barely a year old by the time they got settled. Raised pure Betan, much to his mother's displeasure.
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"Pretty much. The economy is founded on technology and sex; and the rest of the Nexus knows what we do and how we do it. Well , except for the technology we keep for ourselves." See, David, simple. He doesn't mind the question, although he does shift his grip on David's hands, rubbing slow circles into the palm of them. "Barrayar. M'mother and I came here when I was a baby -- refugees, you know, from that civil war they've still got going on. After my father died I guess her sister-in-law helped her get off sent and back to Beta."
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Relaxing is what he's aiming for, David Galen. Ivan doesn't mind spilling about where he came from -- that's all old news, anyway, and barely relevant to his life growing up on Beta Colony. As for his mother, well. She still included the Lady Alys Vorpatril on all her business cards. Ivan might have grown up Betan by default, but his mother had never shied away from making sure he'd had the important parts of being a Vor Lord instilled in him at an early age.

Which didn't mean running off to become an LSP in her view. "She manages," Ivan says, with a small grin, "And manages social functions for the politicians here in Silica. Very prestigious and very in demand. Even if her flat out refusal to organize orgies leaves some of her potential clients flummoxed."
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He'd wondered briefly why David didn't opt for a hermaphrodite, but the lingering gaze tells him enough. He supposes if you're going to find out if you're attracted to men you'd want someone you're attracted to; that's good, that'll help them in the future. "The galactics appreciate it," Ivan points out, grin going slightly wider as the hand massage he's giving David dips towards sensual before he pulls it back again.

"What about your family?" Surely the man has some.
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-29 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ivan hums in understanding, dropping one hand to pick up the other and doing the same gentle circles as he had before. "The most lucrative profession on Komarr, though," he points out but doesn't follow through. "I can imagine that's a lot of work -- it takes a certain type of person to wrangle everyone and get them where they need to be. God knows how m'mother does it, but I think she likes the satisfaction of a job well done."

She's not the only one, but Ivan's job isn't really one she approves of. A point of contention in their relationship, one of a few.
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[personal profile] whatdidisay 2016-05-29 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
His own face lightens at the fact David is at least enjoying this, hopefully. Good, instinct told him he was on the right track. Encouraging intimacy in a professional relationship isn't too difficult, especially one where they'll eventually have sex, but he knows that it's important to make the other man feel comfortable with it. Although they'll really have to work on getting him comfortable with his own body when it comes to sex.

"Better them than me," Ivan confesses with a smile. "I've got no talent for things like that." Where he has plenty when it comes to having sex.
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Ivan laughs at that, remembering getting his own degree. "I can't say I envy you. I was awful at school, but they don't let anyone become an LSP without getting a degree." He did manage it though, so he feels like that says something about him. And with a perfectly average GPA, too.

"It can't be all bad if you keep going back to it, though."

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