"That's why you're here, isn't it? To get you less likely to run away in the opposite direction the moment someone brings up penises in a conversation." Although Ivan does have to admit, the man is skittish as hell. "The first part is getting comfortable with your own wants and desires, like I've said. You seem to be doing alright there," he adds encouragingly.

As for what's next, well. "Then you just have to learn to be able to express what you want." Ivan gives the other man a more searching look before giving up. "Being comfortable with yourself will help that, if you think you need more practice." Physical practice would help, too, really. But Ivan wonders if mentioning that would send David away.